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Sponge
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So having spent the best part of 35 years refurbishing my B175 as a bike to ride - I have finally crowned the bike by fitting the dual seat - and I simply hate it !!

It is a brand new seat ( I purchased it about 5 years ago) - it is made by Wassel, came from a peputable source and was advertised as correct for a Bantam 175 but to be honest, although teh right length, and very comfy, it is about 2 inches too wide and about and inch too high and would be better used on a B40. It obviously fits the bike with no problems but to my mind it just doesn't look right. You may have a different opinion. 

To that end I have decided that it has to go, I will never be happy looking at a bike with side porches - I am open to offers but what I would really like would be a swap (with cash adjustment if necessary) for a genuine D14/4 or B175 dual seat made, or still on,  on the original parallel sided Bantam pan.  Condition is not critical so long as the seat base is genuine, or of teh same proportions as genuine and can, therefore, be re-furbished. 

If you are not bothered about what your seat looks like, or what you sit on, or maybe you like this seat, then it could be for you - a snip - as always happy to discuss - by PM please. 

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Interesting photo of part of your rear carrier. Mind me asking where you got it/ what it’s originally intended for?

ta muchly

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Bought it at the Stafford Show several years ago.  Nice bloke from Northumberland but have no further details - sorry.   

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Sponge said
Bought it at the Stafford Show several years ago.  Nice bloke from Northumberland but have no further details - sorry.     

Wotcha.

I was going to ask if that was a stainless steel carrier. . . . 'cos I've just bought one from the same fellow.

He also did the stainless steel carrier on my A65.

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Thanks for the info on the racks. Christmas present sorted.

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Hi Sponge.
      You have made me think with your comments on the Wassel seat. I bought one about 9 years ago and didn't think that it looked out of place.
The seat that I have measures 260mm across at its widest point. I have just asked another member to measure the width of his seat and its 270mm.
I don't know if it's original or not. Do you know what the width of the original seat should be?
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I have to agree with Sponge, that seat of his looks too thick and plump and I would not be happy with it’s look. If it helps Mike, my B175 has its original seat and it measures 265mm across at the widest point.

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Sponge
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Classic Bike Racks - that's the one.  A nice Stainless Steel rack that is not too big and doesn't look out of place on a lightweight bike. 

I had to do a bit of smithing to get it to fit the way I wanted it to look though..........but the end result is very pleasing. 

I am going to take some measurements of these seats and will post them - I spend a lot of time looking at that Wassel seat and I cannot bring myself to love it.  It is a pity I do not own a B40 !! 

Stand by for measurements:  next post

Sponge 

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Probably similar to the D3 dimensions I recently posted - it's on the same chassis after all.

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Guys, many thanks for getting engaged with this thread, I find it supportive. 

The width of the subframe rails at their widest point on a 4 speed Bantam (this B175) is 21.7cm

The width of an original BSA fitted, unrestored, B175 dual seat ( I removed it from another bike ) is 26 cm. It tapers from teh front and then has parallel sides.  

The width of the Wassell seat is 28 cm at its widest point but it is distinctly oval in shape (it does not have parallel sides and no real taper). 

The difference is not a lot - 2cm - but it really shows on the bike - the dualseat is actually wider than the side panels - which just looks odd. 

So I am still in the market for a B175 seat on a genuine pan - or I might try R.K Leighton's ( I should have gone there in the first place !!). 

The B40 seat is available if anybody wants to make an offer - as originally described for sell or swap.  It is brand new and it does fit a Bantam but it looks wierd.  

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Sponge said
 or I might try R.K Leighton's ( I should have gone there in the first place !!). 

Sponge       

Wotcha.

Leighton's are good - expensive but good.

I've got one of theirs on my A65 . . . . after having it done twice by a cheaper place.  They just couldn't get the foam density right.

My Goldie has a Wassell seat, which had such a thin cover from new that it split in less than 3500 miles.  That was recovered by my local chappie and has been fine ever since.

I'd be inclined to go down the Leighton path.

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Hi Wolf, 

Another club member has offered me a genuine seat which, if he is agreeable,  I will bite his hand off for use on another bike that I am just getting started on.  As for the long running B175 I am now convinced that Leightons is the right call - I will get in touch Monday and sort out a new seat. I am sure that somebody with a B40 will be interested in the Wassell seat in due course. 

I have been a fool to false economy .....but I don't want to spoil the ship for a haappeth of tar - to quote all the old cliches.

Sponge

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