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Just registered - my dilemma, sell all the D1 parts or try to make a bike?
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Hello

I have registered on this forum to get the best advice. I have bought a D1 plunger Bantam ( or just a  lot of parts)  and unsure what to do with it? It was an impulse buy  ( although I am not new to the bike/car restoration world, and do own a 1952 James comet) and now that I have collected it am in a dilemma - should I  try to rebuild or sell all the parts and help some other projects come to life?  I was hoping I had bought a single complete bike ...... but unsure now.

The frame is a BD2s  number, and it has what looks like a rebuilt engine with it.  The mudguards, tool box and battery box are all in good condition ( original) and its got most of the brackets etc. Probably a 85% complete set of parts.

There is no V5 for the frame, and someone has started to remove the engine mounts and has fitted a single post saddle mount ( so probably intended as  a trials project). The frame would probably be ok to use with some new mounts . There are the main parts for two other engines ( crankcases, barrels etc.)  So I am  in a dilemma:

Option 1)  sell all the parts  use the money to buy a better project. The parts might help others complete their projects.

Option 2) persevere with it and get a logbook, build it up and have a "bitsa"  bike, with an age related  (unrelated! )  reg number.

I prefer projects with some history and this one is a bit anonymous so being honest its not for me at this point.  I have a bigger ongoing project and need to concentrate on that, so these boxes of parts  are going to sit there for a while, which I would not have minded if it was a complete single source bike, but as it is I don't see me getting any enthusiasm for it beyond  the initial purchase.

Now I can hear the cries of "why buy it in the first place?" , and I agree , but as we all share similar interests I hope you will understand and give me the best advice? I don't like seeing vehicles broken for parts, but is this just a mishmash of spares?

Should I post the frame and engine numbers to see if anyone can start giving it a history?

 

Thanks

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Depends a bit on how much it owes you.A functioning bike is always worth more than a basket case.A shown running engine is quite saleable .A good clear inventory will help buyers .If you have to redo wheels then I would not bother,they constitute a big cost which is not justified for a 'toy'.

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FUGLY0NE said

The frame is a BD2s  number, and it has what looks like a rebuilt engine with it.  The mudguards, tool box and battery box are all in good condition ( original) and its got most of the brackets etc. Probably a 85% complete set of parts.

There is no V5 for the frame, and someone has started to remove the engine mounts and has fitted a single post saddle mount ( so probably intended as  a trials project). The frame would probably be ok to use with some new mounts 

Should I post the frame and engine numbers to see if anyone can start giving it a history?

It depends what exactly has been done to the frame. If it has been altered from factory original in any way then you cannot get a dating certificate for it. Without that, you wont be able to get an age related plate. Was the frame number on the engine mount or the headstock? Is it definitely a D1 or could it be a D3?

There will usually be more value in selling a complete and registered bike than a collection of parts, though sold individually they may make a good sum.

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a 77 Honda CB125S. I have a 74 Kawasaki S3 400 and a B175 waiting for restoration. A 1980 Honda CB400N waiting for MOT.  Everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. 

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Thanks for the info. Both engine mounts have been cut off, so if I can't get a dating cert for it then that's a problem. Its probably best to sell off all the parts. One of the engines is almost 100% so I will try and get it running to get the best return.

 

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BD2S frame numbers were, I think mostly on the Headstock left hand side
not on the engine mounts, which can be easily replaced/made

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mike p5xbx said
BD2S frame numbers were, I think mostly on the Headstock left hand side
not on the engine mounts, which can be easily replaced/made  

BD2s started in 1953 and finished in 1963. Frame numbers were on the headstock between 1955 and 1966. 

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a 77 Honda CB125S. I have a 74 Kawasaki S3 400 and a B175 waiting for restoration. A 1980 Honda CB400N waiting for MOT.  Everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. 

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I have a BD2s frame and original logbook which is stamped on the headstock
Number 285XX first registered June 1954

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mike p5xbx said
I have a BD2s frame and original logbook which is stamped on the headstock
Number 285XX first registered June 1954  

Well BSA were anything but consistent. In any case the location of the frame number in this instance is not the issue. The point is the frame has been altered by cutting off the mounts and is therefore no longer original.

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a 77 Honda CB125S. I have a 74 Kawasaki S3 400 and a B175 waiting for restoration. A 1980 Honda CB400N waiting for MOT.  Everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. 

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If the Frame structure has not been altered the mounts can be replaced.

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