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Mike E.
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PICT0043.JPGPICT0045.JPGI've been looking at options to deter theft, and one of them is to install a security chain anchor point that will be going into the new concrete slab in my garage. There are commercially made units available, and I would think others have come up with similar solutions, so here is my idea for one more obstacle to get in the way of a potential thief.

I took a hardened Shackle of one inch in diameter. Threaded the pin all the way in, then backed it out one turn so that it can swivel flat when a bar is welded to the pin. I then welded a bar to a scrap piece of angle iron and the pin so that it can be embeded flush into concrete at a convenient place. One could also do something similar to an existing slab by just cutting and digging out a hole in their garage slab and using a couple of bags of cement.

Hope this topic will be of of interest, here are a couple of photos.  

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Whenever I look at things like this I can't help thinking how well will it resist a cordless angle-grinder? The answer usually is, not terribly. There's a video on YouTube by FortNine, they tested a selection of locks, all succumbed to the dreaded CAG even a super top-of-the-range chain and padlock combo costing an eye-watering 500 dollars – but he did say there was a chance that the disc would shatter in the thief's face who would be trying to cut it. It was still cut on the test.

As a deterrent to those who are less determined, yes it'll be fine.

Have I told the story about the guy who had the Harley – it was in Used Bike Guide or the other one, Used Motorcycle Guide, years ago. Brick garage, steel up-and-over door, 3 padlocks on the door (top and sides), on the inside of the door, a scaffold pole padlocked to metal posts sunk into the concrete floor, alarm on the bike. Yes it was nicked. As the owner was a bit of a burly bloke, and that particular weekend he had a similarly burly friend staying overnight, the thieves took the precaution of tying the front and back doors closed with ropes, to slow them down in case either of them heard something and went out to investigate. They didn't, all they knew was in the morning neither outside doors would open. Had to climb out of a window to discover the ropes, and a empty garage.

Another true story – I'm on a couple of Moto Guzzi forums – can't remember which but a year or so ago a member had a bike nicked. (Might not have been an MG either.) Informed the police yaddy-yadda, but wasn't expecting much response, so was pleasantly surprised when they sent someone round. More pleasantly surprised that it was a detective seargeant, not just a 'bobby'. Get all the details blah blah blah, terrific. So then he says "When can I expect to get my bike back?"

The cop says "Oh we won't be looking for it. Was it insured?" Of course, was the answer. "Well that's alright then." (!)

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Guess I could park my Bantam in the living room like I did with my chopper decades ago, but not sure how my Wife would feel about it, as I was single back then. 69-FL.JPG  

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I think that realistically, if the scum thieves really want your bike, nothing short of a bunker with armed guards will stop them trying. However, for a relatively low value asset like a Bantam, any reasonable security makes the risk too great, so a ground anchor and stout chain makes sense. It's easy to spend as much on security as the bike is worth (in insurance value), just depends on how YOU value it.

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February 27, 2021 - 6:52 pm
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I'm aware of what a battery operated disc cutter can accomplish, but chaining a bike down in an awkward position to get access is just another step that can at least help slow a thief or thieves down long enough to catch them in the act.

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I recently lost my key for my sold secure ulock, Tried an hack saw, it would not scratch it, I borrowed a battery angle grinder ,and to be honest was feeling smug that it wouldn't be able to cut it off. it went through it like a knife through butter that has been left in the sun. I was down on the canal towpath watching magnet fisherman and the amount of u locks they were pulling out was shocking, every one of them had been cut . Also saw this frame any one fancy a project ?

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That frame might be interesting for someone building a rat bike, lol.laugh 

Yeah, those battery grinders do cut through metal like proverbial butter, but every little bit you can do helps.PICT0006-2.JPG 

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I was probably a bit curt, if seems that way apologies. laugh Not saying it's all nonsense, of course extra security makes your bike a harder target, so the tealeafs (tealeaves?) move on to something more easily nickable. Yes I use additional locks, in fact in for my other two bikes as well, my insurance requires me to do so. But I have no illusions like coco said if someone really really really wants it they'll have it.

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Hi Mike,

No apologies needed, as I appreciate down to earth feedback. thumbs-up I do have a couple other security ideas which I might apply, that I learned while doing construction at a research facility many years ago. 

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Mike E. said
...I do have a couple other security ideas which I might apply...

Hmm, that gives me an idea. 558650_v2.jpg

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cocorico said

Mike E. said
...I do have a couple other security ideas which I might apply...

Hmm, that gives me an idea. 558650_v2.jpg  

Love it, lol. laugh

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Just wanted to show my attempt at securing my "bike"SAM_2894.JPGSAM_2886.JPGSAM_2884.JPGSAM_2902.JPG

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Very good. 

Might have worked too, before you showed the entire internet...

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That, I like. clap

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Using that poor bantam like a decoy duck.....rofl

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Ahhh, the secret room; but perhaps not all has been revealed. wink

(Photo) A pair of double doors behind the canoe panel lead into my barn overseas. A long blade screwdriver goes through a strategically placed knothole to engage the lock mechanism. Property has sold so no longer a security issue for me.PICT0007-Medium.JPG

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Stoo63 said
Using that poor bantam like a decoy duck.....rofl  

yeah, & that's the only one that isn't insured! 

But seriously i just wanted to show "out of sight out of mind" is the best security.  And -----------

GlenAnderson said
Very good. 

Might have worked too, before you showed the entire internet...  

they'd be out of luck even if they did find the garage, the Goldie's now in the front room!!!

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Best place to keep it, Derek. 🙂

As Sherlock Holmes used to say, "The best place to hide something is in plain sight"

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