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PatricB
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"As rare as hen's teeth" applies to those parts which are no longer manufactured and also fall into the 'unobtanium' and 'rocking horse poo (that's the polite version)' categories. There's no doubt that there are parts which users of this forum are finding difficult to get - maybe these should be flagged up for anyone about to buy a bike in need of restoration, so they know some of the future hurdles which might be encountered?

I think most parts are still available in one form or another for the common and long-running models, but I reckon there are bits for some of the early bikes (which I don't know much about) which just can't be found?

In my experience with later bikes, many Bushman bits are rare, also Sports Bantam bits, including the silencer heatshield, front chrome mudguard, full width hubs and, of course, the holy grail - an original flyscreen. 

Anybody got anything else to add to the list? 

Current bikes: 1968 D14/4 Sports, 1974 Triumph T100R Daytona.

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the inner headlamp retainer ring ,chainguard upper and lower for later SA and of course badges. 

67 D10. and a D7    2007 Honda Hornet FA. Honda CD200 81 93 Yamaha TTR 250 Raid, Sinnis SC 125.   75 Montesa Cota 247 an electric scooter of Famous make.

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enything   on   EBAY    is  clamed  to  be  H/ T  ,  R /H/ S   and  so  on     wot  thay   mean  is  if  it  was  any  good     thayed    keep  IT

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I agree the Sports/Bushman heatshield plus also the original Bushman / B175 rear carrier plate and Bushman chainguard are very rare.  Also B175 cylinder heads.   There is probably lots more.

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I must say, I used eBay extensively for my restoration and found it a very useful resource for things like fasteners, decals etc. Many reputable companies sell their goods via eBay, sometimes at lower prices than on their own websites. I have got some great parts, such as NOS Wipac stop light switch for the same price as repro items, a complete original twistgrip for a tenner and a new alloy tail light which was half the price of every other one I've seen elsewhere.

Of course, I have had some issues with eBay, such as a final drive chain advertised as being perfect for Bantams which was was never going to fit (I subsequently got a NOS Renolds chain from a member here), and some of the postage charges on some items have been extortionate.

I have heard some horror stories from those who have not been as lucky as me with their eBay purchases (and sales!), so, as ever, its a case of buyer and seller beware!

Current bikes: 1968 D14/4 Sports, 1974 Triumph T100R Daytona.

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Hard to find for early (1950) D1 Rigid

Rear mudguard 

Rear wheel with 1/2 inch spindle in roadworthy condition

As mentioned elsewhere tinwork is particularly hard to track down and the Indian copies are just not up to the mark.

 

Alan

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johnsullivan said
the inner headlamp retainer ring ,chainguard upper and lower for later SA and of course badges.   

Do you mean the chromed piece of oval shaped trim? There's lots on ebay usually, but at 20 odd quid a go plus about a fiver postage...on your first mentioned item.

Four now on the road and at least several in bits.

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Speaking of the heat shield, does anyone know where I can get one please? Thanks.

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no the carrier ring between the shell and chromed outer ring. it rots and many advertised shells are devoid of it.There is a skilled machinist in Newport who may be worth asking about spindles.,his username is Paul.

67 D10. and a D7    2007 Honda Hornet FA. Honda CD200 81 93 Yamaha TTR 250 Raid, Sinnis SC 125.   75 Montesa Cota 247 an electric scooter of Famous make.

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I really regret selling some early D1 items instead of hanging onto to them year`s ago. Battery holder, lighting cable and gubbins, gear indicator. Got good prices for them as the auctions went loopy-loo, supply&demand and all that malarkey. My Rigid D1 project will not be stopped because of it, when I get "Roundtuit"

Blue(again)

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Oops, I've edited out all the replies to my effort at humour. Sorry chaps. get-me-coat

1956 D3 running, lights to sort. 7 other bikes in the Barn, 6 runners (when I get time!) and a still in progress Morini 250

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johnsullivan said
no the carrier ring between the shell and chromed outer ring. it rots and many advertised shells are devoid of it.There is a skilled machinist in Newport who may be worth asking about spindles.,his username is Paul.  

Do you mean the beam setting ring, with slotted holes for adjustment, I have plenty if anyone needs one.

Four now on the road and at least several in bits.

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Lucas bits, especially the switch and the switch knob. Been told there maybe a switch knob at the end of the rainbow, but the «censored» leprechauns keep beating me to it.

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A good d14 crank 😂😂😂 they were rare in the day so I'm led to believe!

What's 7/16 in mm again?

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if we have a CAD draughtsman in the club I think 3D printing of the switch Knobs Wipac or Lucas is practicable.

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johnsullivan said
if we have a CAD draughtsman in the club I think 3D printing of the switch Knobs Wipac or Lucas is practicable.  

My brother worked nights at Wipac in Buckingham about 20 years ago, there were containers full to the brim with Wipac stuff for old bikes, maybe it was all being got together for sale, there was a container with many, many, thousands of blank switch tops, a few fell into the turn ups of my trousers and I still have them.

There's about a hundredweight of the things laying and gathering dust somewhere!

PS, you'd still need to find/make the special (?) little spring clips to hold switch onto plastic shaft of switch.

Four now on the road and at least several in bits.

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johnsullivan said
if we have a CAD draughtsman in the club I think 3D printing of the switch Knobs Wipac or Lucas is practicable.  

I'm a design engineer with cad facilities.

Am happy to help, especially in return for helping me find the elusive parts I need! 

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Some time ago I visited Bantam John looking for a Bushman

heat shield, he showed me a part formed sheet metal blank.

I think someone was in thd process of making them,

might be worth giving him a call.

Nick.

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neddyo said
Some time ago I visited Bantam John looking for a Bushman

heat shield, he showed me a part formed sheet metal blank.

I think someone was in thd process of making them,

might be worth giving him a call.

Nick.  

Thanks for the help

I've just had the 'pleasure' of speaking to John.

Definitely a unique experience, his approach to customers is something unlike I've encountered before from any vendor! 

Needless to say, the hunt continues.... 

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Do me favour, never use a buffing wheel to polish a switch knob!

Coz I'm nowfishing for hen's tooth Wypac embossed I/E Ign Switch Knob...

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