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Stoo63
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December 2, 2019 - 9:39 pm
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My old "original" plates all have the format ABC 123 but my "new" reg numbers are all 123 ABC. Is this always the case? When I see the 123ABC format, I always get a gut-feeling like I've just missed a gear. Is that because they are actually a DVLA invention?  Cue: flood of pics of "my great grandad's black ariel with 123ABC plate; "1912 triumph flat tank with 123ABC plate etc, etc, etc

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Hi Stewart - I'm not 100% sure but the following reason for reversed plated has been given on a few sites, and might go some way to explain.

Initially, the marks were made up of a local council identifier code of up to 3 letters, followed by a random number, e.g. ABC 123. In the early 1950s, as numbers started to run out, the components were reversed, giving rise to registrations in the format 123 ABC.

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Cheers, Bob. And welcome! Hopefully we'll be seeing pics of your new bike soon laugh Have you got any preference as to model?

I'm going OT on my own thread.... My 59 D1 and 60 trumf both have abc123 but a replated 57 cub and replated 52d1 are both 123abc...... 

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It was the early to mid fifties when the format was changed from ABC123 to 123 ABC, not all areas changed at the same time.

The 123 ABC system also began to run out of available plates by the early sixties and the suffix system was introduced.

As far as I understand it age related Registration Numbers should now follow the format that was being issued at the time the vehicle was manufactured.

This was not always the case in the past, there are many instances of vehicles being issued with an 'A' suffix plate (which would suggest that all those vehicles were manufactured in 1963 when they clearly were not!) because most authorities didn't use the suffix system until 1964, therefore there were many 'spare' A suffix registrations. Many people complained and there was a time when you could get those changed to the current system of age related plates (I think the window for that has now expired).

Nowadays, age related plates seem to be issued from the pool of unused registrations that would have been issued in Scotland originally.

So not really a DVLA invention, just that our era of bikes probably mostly fall into the time when 123 ABC was being issued and many Scottish 'spare' numbers being available due to them not all being used up originally.

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My first bike - a 1960 BSA C15 - was 182 BOL. I guess it was still down to the various Local Licensing Authorities what number was issued.

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