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Trialrider17
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November 10, 2019 - 7:07 pm
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Started the B175 Bushman rebuild a few weeks ago and I am now ready to start putting it together , it looked good when I first got it but closer inspection revealed a few things that need replacing .

First the wheel rims were quite rusty ( cheap Italian chrome ones) so rebuilt with Devon rims stainless spokes and rims they are Dunlop profile so same as fitted ,new bearings ,shoes ,tyres ,tubes .

Next forks striped and rebuilt with new bushes and seals and repainted ,the bike had be painted at some time but had been over painted and look pretty poor ,frame and other parts were blasted and repainted .Had the hard to find parts rechromed ie exhaust guard, brake throttle,  and clutch levers ,exhaust clamp .Brought new silencer and NOS exhaust and air filter ,and new handle bars .

Luckily the tank and side panels front mudguard had been painted to a very good standard ,the rear mudguard was shot lots of rust and holes.

Will put photos on as I make some progress with build.

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Very nice...yes keep us updated.

Nick.

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Finished and ready to goIMG_20200307_152600.jpg

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Superb!

More photos please 🙂

How easy was it to get the replacement rear guard?

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Hi Blue ,I will put more photos on when I work out how to zip them down .

The rear mud guard came from Feked code no MUD 18-5 ,the guard on the bike when I brought it was «censored» painted but full of rust and did not fit that well and this one looked the right shape but was 1/4" wider .

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That looks real sweet... a fantastic job...well done.

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More photos of my Bushman ,this is a UK bike so quite rare ? had some luck with air filter to carb hose as it was missing when I brought bike ,found one on ebay for Tiger cub to Vokes filter £12.99 and it fits a treat ( last photo).

Just need a new kickstart as the one fitted is worn and rusty.

 

Simon

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Does anyone have any idea of a valuation of my Bushman for insurance purposes ? ,I know what it cost to get it to this condition .

I have seen a few Bushman for sale at very high prices but I want a realistic price for an agreed value .

Simon

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price  as  uthers   out  ther          it  looks  like  a  Pastoral    wich  ant   the  stanard  british   modle   ,   it  may have  changed   over  time   very nice  well   done   Simon

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Well, with 7 Russian warships in the English Channel last two days and financial disaster upon us, get it down the bunker with you 🙁

Lovely job, I really like the Bushman/Pastoral models, right down to the colour, like the Mountain Cubs.

As it`s a rarity and would not be easy to replace....you`d as likely have to approach "The Trade" for a replacement, then I`d use their prices as a guideline. Don`t tell me, they`re 5-6k at the mo. Goes to google to check.....

Good luck, you and your bike may be requisitioned to deliver supplies to remote hillside properties 🙂

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Hi Sunny , what makes you think it is a Pastoral and not a standard British model .

The BSA Bantam club dating letter states it's a 1970 BSA Bantam B175 Bushman  made on 12/02/1970 and dispatched to Earnshaws Huddersfield  and no indication  that it ever left the UK, so I presume it is a standard British model.

How does the Pastoral differ from the Bushman ?

Simon

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your   bantam   is  and  looks  like   it   allways  has  been  a   BUSHMAN         thers  no  batery   is  ther  ?   uk   Bushman   had   baterys  fited    please  DONOT    put      the    word     PASTORAL    on  the  Tank  unles   you  have   I/D  that  it   ever  hapend

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Sorry to throw the cat in among the pigeons guys, but to amplify on what Sunny has explained :  

Both UK and Export Bushman175 models were fitted, as standard, with Energy Transfer Ignition which implies no battery.

I believe that it was possible to specify battery ignition when you ordered the bike but I have never seen a 'genuine' Bushman 175 with battery ignition. 

D14/4 Bushman models as above.  I have seen one of those with battery ignition but it was retrofitted by the owner - not factory specified.   

The D10 Bushman models came in two flavours - D10 Bushman and D10 Bushman Pastoral.  The D10 Bushman had a battery ignition system with a coil etc etc. The Bushman Pastoral had ET ignition and hence no battery required.           

The bike in question is a Bushman175.  So it ought to have ET ignition.   

ET ignition Bushman models have 1 switch ( lights) on the headlamp.  

Battery ignition models have two switches. 

Ref value - between nothing and 5K depending on the bike, condition, originality, ownership history etc     

Front mudguard stays were usually ivory/white on Export models.  Black on UK home market models. 

Hope this helps

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Hi Sponge ,thanks for your post ,the Bushman has ET ignition no battery and only one light switch on headlight .The front mudguard stays were already painted white when I got the bike  and only had to paint the new rear mudguard .

I now have agreed value of £5000 with the insurance company as I  don't think I will find another one in this condition for less.

Simon

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If you have a dating certificate from the club, and it states that it is a Bushman and that it was sent to a UK dealer, then you have a UK Bushman, it is not in doubt. As to what is fitted now that's may be a different tale. There are few Bantams, Bushman or otherwise, that have not had alterations, additions and subtractions over the last 40 or 50 years. Did I issue the certificate? When was it dated?

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a B175 almost ready for the road and a 76 Honda C90 in the workshop. A 1980 Honda CB400N now on the road and my everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. All bikes (except the D5) are now for sale...

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Hi yes you issued the dating certificate on 11 June 2018 as a UK B175  Bushman .

I have no doubt it is a UK Bushman ,a fully rebuilt one unfortunately not a unrestored original one.

Simon

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Hmm, interesting. I have no certificates listed under your surname for June of 2018. Was it a previous owner? what is the surname on the certificate?

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a B175 almost ready for the road and a 76 Honda C90 in the workshop. A 1980 Honda CB400N now on the road and my everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. All bikes (except the D5) are now for sale...

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Hi ,yes it was for a previous owner Mr Yirrell

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Hi ,yes it was for a previous owner Mr Yirrell  

Ah yes found it now. If you need the certificate to get the bike registered, it is out of date now and will need to be replaced. If it is already registered, which I hope Mr Yirrell did after receiving the certificate, then just relax and keep it in the bikes history file. It looks brilliant, you have done a fine job and Bushmans always attract attention.

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a B175 almost ready for the road and a 76 Honda C90 in the workshop. A 1980 Honda CB400N now on the road and my everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. All bikes (except the D5) are now for sale...

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Hi Steve ,yes Mr Yirrell did register the Bushman and I have the V5C in my name .

Simon

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