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Hi Mags,

You are very right about paper masks, the ones I was using are supposed to OK for spraying, but I'm not convinced about that.

I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong

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I forgot to put up the pictures of the spray gun and trap. you can just see the water vapour

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I purchased one litre of paint and have now run out of paint, and do you think I can remember where I got it from. I have searched through all my receipts and on line transactions but can find no mention of it, I have tried a online search and can't find any one selling it. Must be the fumes

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RS Paints???

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Hi Dave,

Paint's looking great but Mags is right, you really shouldn't be spraying in a closed environment without at least a proper mask. A paper mask is no use. Cellulose paint is not good for your lungs or your eyes and in a small space it'll build up and it's really bad for you.

You need a charcoal mask to filter out the particles. I have always used a 3M one like this  : ** Please log in to view **

- which is a really cheap way to protect your lungs - you should note that they only last for ten hours and you have to re-seal them in the packet between uses. 

You'd be much better of doing it outdoors but you still need the mask. 

Spray paint generally isn't good for you and cellulose isn't a whole lot better than two-pack except that permeates your skin as well so you shouldn't use it indoors without external air supply.

Sorry, I sound like a health and safety inspector but better that than you breath in paint spray.

Keep up the good work on the bike though, can't wait to see it finished, hopefully I'll be starting my D1 soon. Oh, one more thing (Like you need more advice from me cool) - don't forget to drain your compressor, if you're not doing that after each use, you will get a lot of water vapour build-up in your airline which is maybe what's filling your trap.

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oh «censored» hell, I don't remember using anything 20 years ago when did my D5. Mind you I just had lung function tests and scored 103 % for my age and size so maybe I got away with it. I plan to repaint the tank again soon, will be more careful this time.

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I said BL00DY HELL just in case anyone thought I was being really potty mouthed. embarassed

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I said BL00DY HELL just in case anyone thought I was being really potty mouthed. embarassed

Potty mouth , not heard that expression in years. lol

I tried two different masks yesterday, they didn'y work very well, One i got from a lady who lives up the road, I took it back to her and told her I could not breath while using it, she winked at me and said I know that it what it is supposed to do , she does work strange hours , so not sure what she meant by that ! the second one was not much better.

All jokes aside you should always use the correct PPE , I couldn't spray out side as there is a very large oak tree and it drops bits down all the time, so what I did this time was to move the spraying right near both the doors this way I got better light and fresh air at the same time , the mask I used is the ones I use to remove asbestos washer at work, It has been face fitted, I'm sure it is not suitable for long duration spraying but the actual spraying time is less then ten minutes .

So it all has second coat and i got the tank sprayed as well.

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I have fully woken up and was feeling brave, I removed the masking tape on the petrol tank, guess who forgot about the red stripe?

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With out the tape

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looking good dave, just need a steady hand m8

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looking good dave, just need a steady hand m8

Thank you Alan,

Can any one tell me what are the correct tank decals for this bike?

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Looks great Dave, nows the time for the stripe(s), just make sure you use the thin 3M tape, anything else seems to pull the paint off. 

..and with my party pooper hat on againwink, an asbestos mask might not work at all for paint, different particulate sizes and the charcoal masks absorb the harmful chemicals (or something like that). It might be okay but it might not but probably better than nothing !

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For the transfers I got mine from the Vintage Motorcycle club :** Please log in to view **

Theres a lot of rubbish transfers out there, especially on eBay. Some stick on with fast glue so you've got to get it right first time, some have incorrect colours or fade, some only work with some types of paint.

I called them (I think it might be just one bloke there who deals with decals) and he knew exactly what I needed for the D5 and he was upset when I double checked and said he'd been doing this for 30 years and knew his decals!

They were the proper water slides and as cheap as anywhere so I can recommend them. Just give him a call , tell them the exact model and year and he'll tell you whan you need and they'll be with you a day later. 

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i just had a tank sprayed got stickers from some vintage place u can see a glue line around out side the m8 who did tank as just dun another 1 and used stickers from bornmouth bantams and thay r 100% wish thay was on mine 

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Really pissed off, masked up for the red line and sprayed it, when I removed it the masking tape it had done strange things to the tank, it made the paint soft and the whole tank will have to be done again.  I was in two minds as to do the red line or not, now I wish I had left it alone.

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After the petrol tank fiasco , I put the behind me and started the build:

Fitted both tyres,

Fitted rear mudguard,

Fitted the front forks,

Fitted new brake shoes to the front wheel then fitted the wheel,

Fitted the handle bars,

Fitted the engine.

Fitted rear number plate,

Fitted tool box,

fitted the foot rest rubbers.

What a pleasure it is doing this work on the hospital bed.

I need to find a bolt that will be long enough to go through both the chain guard and parcel rack.

Absolute cream crackered .

Not only have I been working on the Bantam but I also did and oil and filter change on the Land rover.

Back to work tomorrow for a rest.

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Looking great Dave, must get me one of those hospital beds or, with my back, I'm likely to end up lying on one!

Not sure what can have happened to your tank. Did you use the 3M tape?  It's the only I have found that works and I can't imagine that would damage the paint in any way way like normal masking tape does. When you re-do it, mask it with the tape and just hand paint the gap with a thin brush rather than spraying it. There's some instructions I posted on the technical section that covers this.

If you used cellulose paint as the base colour it should be dry by now and overcoating it shouldn't be a problem so I can only think that the red paint you used was a different type that reacted? Maybe acrylic on top of the cellulose?

On the bright side, every time I've had to do something twice, it's been better the second time as I knew how to do it so it will end up even better now fingers-crossed 

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Hi  Dave  you  may  have  picked  up  the  paint  at  Kempton  Park     Polly   Palmer  sold  paints  ther   , donot  think  he  sells  cellulose   paints    any  mor    he   did   start  doing  the  new  stuff    E: ** Please log in to view **

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I have been out to the shed and took a look at the petrol tank to see what could be done with it, i used a very fine wet and dry paper with some tee cut on it and have cleaned it up,it looks a lot better, but will need spraying in certain places. I used the same tape I used before so don't know why this happened, I will try some careful spraying to see it i can recover it with out doing the whole lot again, I'm not confident about this but have nothing to loose .

I have a problem with the chain guard I can't get it to fit correctly . has I tighten up the bolt that goes through the plunger and parcel rack it pulls it out of shape  , does any one have a picture of this set up ?

The speedo drive I have got is wrong has it spins the speedo in the wrong direction , I can't find the rear brake arm or for that matter the front one, I have a feeling I robbed it to for the D5 which had the wrong one fitted.

I'm waiting for Claudio to deliver the speedo, drive and cable for the Bitsa, as i robbed the speedo of it to fit to the D5, 

The AJS auction finishes today and I have made the decision to sell the D10 bitsa Bantam as well.

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 Well good news, I have found the rear brake arm but need to get the pivot pin, I think that is what it is called, it is the round bit with the hole in it that the brake rod goes through, I appear to be having trouble finding some one that sells it.

More good news the AJS has sold, the new owner is coming all the way from Lincolnshire, he also owns a Bantam sports.

The speedo turned up from India. it is the size of a dinner plate some how this will be fitted to the bitsa. I do like making work for my self.

I am also missing the four front mudguard stays, I have made some up from some aluminium tube they will be used until I can find some proper ones.  Thursday I am off work, and I will attempt to start it up, that is if the weather gets better.

Jobs left to do.

1: The wiring,

2: Fit the head light

3: Fit the rear light.

4: Fit the front mudguard

5: sort out the paint for the petrol tank

6: fit the seat.

7: fit the chain

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