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Wheel rims Bantam D1
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BrentK
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March 18, 2019 - 7:36 pm
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Hi There,

As described in my introduction post ( ** Please log in to view ** )....

I am restoring a Bantam D1 with my Son.
I want to send the frame parts for sand blasting this week. Not sure If the wheels are worth it.
Who can give me at tip on where to buy the right material rims and spokes for my D1 Bantam so I can evaluate the costs? How difficult is it to respoke the wheels? should I get that done by a proffesional?

Here's a photo (as seen in the intro post...link above): ... the front wheel is not too bad but some of the back wheel spokes are actually rusted completely through and I think the sand blasting will kill more of them 🙁

 

Look forward to your advice!

Many Thanks

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Brent

Current restoration project: 1952 D1 Bantam with a sprung frame and Wico Pacy electrics.

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I would not blast a frame that old  .The possibility of eroding the tubing is great .Wheels too .One advantage of your currency at present is you are going to get a handy discount on bits.To get a handle on prices have a look at Central Wheels.U/D.

67 D10. and a D7    2007 Honda Hornet FA. 93 Yamaha TTR 250 Raid, Sinnis SC 125. 78 Honda 90  75 Montesa Cota 247 an electric scooter of Famous make.

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BrentK
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Hi John,

Thanks for your reply. So how would you remove the paint? with chemicals? Would you have some more advice?

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Brent

Current restoration project: 1952 D1 Bantam with a sprung frame and Wico Pacy electrics.

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I wouldn’t bother blasting the wheels, I would buy new rims and spokes, particularly as the spokes are rusted away. Only you can decide if the frame is strong enough to blast. If it’s solid with surface rust it should be ok. To be honest, if the metal is so thin that blasting would reduce it to a pile of rust, it wouldn’t be safe to ride anyway, even if you used chemical remover. 

Whatever you decide, remember to keep the frame number clear and readable, ask the blaster and. powder coated to cover the area and keep it clear to read. Good luck!

Current bikes......1958 D5, a 77 Suzuki GT250 and a 77 Honda CB125S. I have a 74 Kawasaki S3 400 and a B175 waiting for restoration. A 1980 Honda CB400N waiting for MOT.  Everyday ride is a 2011 Harley Davidson Sportster. 

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The tubing wastes worst near the brazing. from pic I would look closely at the areas of rust showing at the plunger brackets.It is well known on this forum that I am a pessimist but I have experience of this .To assess the potential problem wet and dry the Hammerite off.I f the surface revealed is evenly bright then so far so good.however if it is pitted and veiny and further polishing makes no odds you must make a decision.What we are looking for is corrosion cracking.Chances are it will be ok .the area around the headstock too needs a look.I have a Parkside blaster which is nice and gentle but gets the job done.Commercial blasters are more used to girders and raw castings .With any old machine I prefer to see exactly what is going on.The cost of a little set up is not great and you have an asset which can be very handy when dealing with small forged and cast bits .Set low and using glass it has been excellent on bringing back alloy casings{ also gets baked on grass off mowers ].

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Also check that frame is straight, have seen a few on the forum and on my travels that aren`t , including one that an unsuspecting member had stove enameled...oops.

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I have seen a frame debrazed by the stove enamel process ....

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johnsullivan said
I would not blast a frame that old  .The possibility of eroding the tubing is great .Wheels too .One advantage of your currency at present is you are going to get a handy discount on bits.To get a handle on prices have a look at Central Wheels.U/D.  

There's lots of alternatives to sand for blasting, walnut shells, ally oxide, garnet, glass beads (you've mentioned) baking soda etc etc. They may cost more and take longer to get results with though, the public can no longer buy proper paint stripper now, you could use an angle grinder and varioous different grit oxide paper discs, flapper wheels etc. which are much kinder, but to get into all nooks and crannies will take most of a day, from scratch.

Four now on the road and at least several in bits.

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methyl ketone is legal here a I cannot say about Switz.

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