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Hi all..

seem to be doing asking for help rather than helping others at the moment.

I need a rear mudguard for the 1952 D1, the big deep type, not easy to come by.. so, in the meantime I was wondering about fitting a later Bantam mudguard. Now I know my wheel is 19" diameter and later Bantams are 18", would one fit with a bit of tweaking, has anyone done this.. ?

I don't want to pay a lot for a substitute mudguard, and thought I could get a second hand more modern mudguard reasonably cheap for the time being..

Cheers for any help.

Alan 🙂

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I have seen this done, think it was a D7 front one used, not sure how they did this.

You can get the ones from India, but I wouldn't recommend as they are quite different. I got one and then managed to get an original and compared them side by side.  

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I have seen this done, think it was a D7 front one used, not sure how they did this.

You can get the ones from India, but I wouldn't recommend as they are quite different. I got one and then managed to get an original and compared them side by side.  

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Thanks Megga, I’ve already been warned off the Indian ones.. looking at their toolboxes, they look poor quality too..

Thanks for your input 🙂

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Hi Alan,

It would be an interesting looking D1 for a while, but I think it would be do'able. Not sure which mudguard would be the best substitute. It would be a means to an end to gain your registration documents, so it would be worth it.

I had an Indian mudguard for a while, couldn't use it, repair it or give it away. I ended up chucking it on the tip. It was massive and would of fitted a 23 inch diameter wheel.

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chickensoup said
Hi Alan,

It would be an interesting looking D1 for a while, but I think it would be do'able. Not sure which mudguard would be the best substitute. It would be a means to an end to gain your registration documents, so it would be worth it.

I had an Indian mudguard for a while, couldn't use it, repair it or give it away. I ended up chucking it on the tip. It was massive and would of fitted a 23 inch diameter wheel.

Nick20170715_075804.jpg  

Thanks Nick, I have to try something, certainly not buying from India, especially at those prices .

Take a look at that headlamp bracket topic, I have the beading for the headlamp panel, I think it does the job well.. I’ve added some photo’s 😀

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Mick W said
Stephen Clarke fitted a front D7 /14/175 mudguard to a D1. Think it is on The BSA Bantam Page on facebook  

Thanks Mick, interesting that both you and Megga say a front mudguard was used..

I must be one of the only people not on face book, but I’ll see if I can find the photo 🙂

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Mick W said
Stephen Clarke fitted a front D7 /14/175 mudguard to a D1. Think it is on The BSA Bantam Page on facebook  

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I found the photo, it looks ok.. not quite sure why he fitted a deep mudguard on a bike that needs a shallow one.. guess like me, needs must 🙂

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This may be an option,

 But you'll need to save your pocket money for a while and even then it may sting a bit.

I would have thought that it would be an exact replacement for the original rear guard for the price.

 

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Works out to £378 plus postage.

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Hi all,

The Australian mudguard looks the part. Just a quick look on ebay, and an original looking one has come on for £125

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chickensoup said
Hi all,

The Australian mudguard looks the part. Just a quick look on ebay, and an original looking one has come on for £125

Nick  

Cheers Nick, 

I saw the Australian one, it was advertised as a rear but is actually a front one, it has the pressed out number plate on the side.. at least that’s what I think..

A bit pricey for me when you include the postage..

I am a tight Yorkshireman 😉

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Hi Again,

Just clicked on the link to vintage steel, and it came straight up, the plunger rear mudguard. Are well as you say a bit pricey.

The rear mudguard on ebay is now not on also, so I presume it is sold.

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Hi Again,

Just clicked on the link to vintage steel, and it came straight up, the plunger rear mudguard. Are well as you say a bit pricey.

The rear mudguard on ebay is now not on also, so I presume it is sold.

Nick  

Just tried vintage steel on e-bay, no luck.. is vintage steel a different search engine I don’t know about ? 🙂

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Hi Alan, I think that this might be the mudguard on ebay that Nick meant 

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As he says, it's gone now. The prices are crazy. I bought a front and rear last year for 150 and they need work. The aussie ones look great but $$$$. Unfortunately with these things it's often a case of find an alternative to use until you stumble across a decent one at a decent price. 125 looks about the market price unfortunately....

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Hi,

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Ahhg

It's HARRY448's link, 6 posts up from this one. I seem to have forgotten how to copy and paste.

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Hi Alan, I think that this might be the mudguard on ebay that Nick meant 

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As he says, it's gone now. The prices are crazy. I bought a front and rear last year for 150 and they need work. The aussie ones look great but $$$$. Unfortunately with these things it's often a case of find an alternative to use until you stumble across a decent one at a decent price. 125 looks about the market price unfortunately....  

thanks Stewart, I saw that one late last night, thought a total of £139 too much.. I’m prepared to pay around £100 as long as it doesn’t need too much work.. missed out on a couple on eBay recently, but will keep fingers crossed on being lucky.. I just don’t want the price I’ve paid for bike and bits to escalate to more than it’s worth 🙂

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Ahhg

It's HARRY448's link, 6 posts up from this one. I seem to have forgotten how to copy and paste.

out-a-hereNick  


HARRY4448 said

This may be an option,

 But you'll need to save your pocket money for a while and even then it may sting a bit.

I would have thought that it would be an exact replacement for the original rear guard for the price.

 

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Works out to £378 plus postage.  

Oops, I understand now, I missed Harry’s post.. silly me 😉

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HARRY4448 said
This may be an option,

 But you'll need to save your pocket money for a while and even then it may sting a bit.

I would have thought that it would be an exact replacement for the original rear guard for the price.

 

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Works out to £378 plus postage.  

Cheers Harry,

I missed your post initially, it would do fine, just need a half price or less sale 😉

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5BE0AD8E-AA93-4646-8813-CC58B2136B13.jpegWell, just an update on trying a substitute rear mudguard.

I just received a later type Bantam mudguard today, did a dummy run putting it in position. It’s not fastened in position, needs more aligning but it looks like I’ll be using it.. The mudguard has a bit of depth to it, so it isn’t too much unlike the original.. well, that’s if you close your eyes and squint.. 😉

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