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Suitable 'glue' to bond a magnet to the drain plug?
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JammeiM
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I am thinking of drilling a hole in my D7's drain plug to attach a magnet to collect any metal particles. Guidance re adhesive would be appreciated.  Jim

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Try J B Weld, brilliant epoxy, been using it for years. The sort of thing that you can drill & tap. OK for metals,plastics et all.

Barrie.

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Thanks Barrie, will do.

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  NO POINT       Thers  no  oil pump    in a   Bantam    so  any  particals    wont  be  going  in a  pump  

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sunny said
  NO POINT       Thers  no  oil pump    in a   Bantam    so  any  particals    wont  be  going  in a  pump    

and there is no oil flow to extract the particles from

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worth doing on the gearbox plug .

67 D10. and a D7    2007 Honda Hornet FA. 93 Yamaha TTR 250 Raid, Sinnis SC 125. 78 Honda 90  75 Montesa Cota 247 an electric scooter of Famous make.

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the  gearbox  has  a  natrol  oil    flow  ,,, particals  are  hever    than  oil  get   spred  by the  primary  chane  & gears  then  drop  to the  botom    ,, the gears   fling   the oil around  ,   bits  are   taken  to  the  lowest  point  seperating  the  crap     so no  point as  the  g/box  is  self  seperating  bits   ,, mor  inportant is   IF a magnet  comes loos   it can  only  JAM the  gears  and  DISMOUNT  someone ,,,  a  biger oil  pump  system   sucks   derty   oil  past  a  magnet   fided  in the  system   to  STOP  metal  paticals be sucked  into the pump  and  mainshafts     

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the magnet stops the stuff you cannot see no flow is needed it is not a filter..It also allows early warning of failure.Minis had them as standard and the service notes make a point to examine it.My niobium  magnet is on the exterior of the plug.if it falls off no  matter.The crankcase will drain down after many miles so a magnetic plug may tell you something.it can do no harm and the magnet makes it easy to retrieve when it drops out of your oily fingers into the grass or paving joint.

67 D10. and a D7    2007 Honda Hornet FA. 93 Yamaha TTR 250 Raid, Sinnis SC 125. 78 Honda 90  75 Montesa Cota 247 an electric scooter of Famous make.

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As Above...
if you get some 10x3mm Neodymium Rare Earth Magnets
You can stick one on the Outside of the drain plug will do exactly the same job and not worry about it coming off
I use them on both my Triumph and AJS
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thats the spelling .I have then on the tool cabinet lid to hold allen keys etc. 

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mike p5xbx said
As Above...
if you get some 10x3mm Neodymium Rare Earth Magnets
You can stick one on the Outside of the drain plug will do exactly the same job and not worry about it coming off
I use them on both my Triumph and AJS
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That is a brilliant idea. It’s little gems like this that make these forums worthwhile.

Thanks

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Many thanks again for all comments, both for and against. That is what makes the forum so interesting and useful. We all love the wee machines even if we treat them in our individual and different ways.

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You can purchase a  10mm by 15mm cylindrical rare earth off e-bay their  so powerful no kind of glue is necessary,

 just attach it to the top of the drain plug ,which will turn into a strong magnet, fitted one two years ago,changed

the gearbox oil the other day,on removal  the drain plugs magnet had very fine metal particles stuck to the top,

so it seems a very effective way of keeping the gearbox oil clean.

 

      Diene.

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Some machines will have non ferrous plugs,in which case two tube epoxy is ideal.utterly spotless surfaces needed  do not use a hydrocarbon cleaner though they always leave a residue Acetone is my choice cheap and not very harmful.

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So that is why Araldite failed to work after cleaning the surfaces with brake cleaner on another job! Thanks for the advice.

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brake cleaners of the old school are pretty nasty,but often contain a little napthalene .Carb cleaners are acetone based.I am a big fan of an old saucepan and boiling detergent for many jobs.

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brake cleaners contain acetone these days replacing tetrachloroetheleyne

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