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hi  Graham          the 85 MPH   speedo   was made  for  the  1954  range  of  250 &  350  cc   units        by  1958  bsa  was  chaging  to  round  speedos      the   75  MPH speed  was  made  for  any    m/cycles     UNDER   250   cc   so  thay  wer   used   on    d 1,3 & as a  replacment   for   D  5   but  it  had an  85 MPH  speedo   to  use   them   all  up   from  new

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May 14, 2018 - 9:56 pm
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Spot on, Blue. 37mm they are. Socket ordered. Bit of tightness in the steering head - nothing dramatic but worthy of investigation. Cue: Attack of the Errant Ballbearings !!

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May 15, 2018 - 9:39 am
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Hi all, lovely weather for it 😊

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My D1 has a sabrina lamp fitted. Im fine with that. Lovely shape. It had been wired up for a dual filament stop/tail lamp running the stop light from  a small 6v acid battery in the tool box. (BTW im an officianado of 50s 60s british movies and have never heard of Norma Jean Sykes - "Sabrina" - the British Marilyn Monroe that tne lamp is nicknamed after. Although a quick search for images makes it "pointedly" obvious what  the reference was !!)

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Id like to use a single filament 6v tail light and fit a brake switch operating  2 leds run off an auxiliary AA battery pack. There seem to be plenty double filament bulb holders out there but no singles? Does anyone no a source for a single alternative or how I could cobble together a working bulb holder myself.

Any suggestions guys?

Cheers 

Stewart 

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Oh,so it wasn`t named after the teenage witch? 😉

How about grafting one of these in?(minus domestic ones,obvs)...[Permission to view this media is denied]
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It would necessitate a certain amount of butchery,but it wont show....and we wont tell anyone 🙂Blue

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Fingers crossed the races aren`t dented and new balls do the trick.

Blue

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Thanks, Blue. Ordered and despatched! Now to do some sneaky fettling with the LEDs for stop lights. Obviously non-standard issue but with the clowns driving around these days it would be daft not to install them if it makes no outwardly cosmetic diference. And its a non-standard rear lamp anyway......

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I think you could have trouble fitting that type of bulb holder as the lens fixing screws will get in the way
this is the type of bulb holder the original Sebrina had for the two stop lamps
yes I am old enough to remember Sabrina and Arthur Askey on tv “before your very eyes” wow
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you could convert the stater to 12 volts DC easily and run all the lighting direct without any battery, much better choice of LED bulbs as well

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Dumbkopf!!!

Dismantled rear hub.; all nice and free, straight and cleaned😊 All fits back together nicely. Do the super little brake shoe mod as per Anderzander's lovely D7 resto. Then i go to fit the hub cover plate and...... Fairies, yes Fairies! Or gremlins or some other shower of mischievous #!%*^/s have half-inched my distance spacer 90-6095 !! Had a look online but to no avail so far. Does anybody have a suggestion for alternative distance piece? Of course it couldnt just be a simple big fat washer.... oh no  it had to be something machined to fit into the felt washer as well.

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May 15, 2018 - 6:21 pm
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Dragonfly shows it in stock 90-6095
, but worryingly show a photo of the rear axle ?
perhaps best to ring them

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These bulbs should go straight into your unit but you need to check which earth you have

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Yes Mike, correct DF have got it wrong. 90-6096 looks like a top hat . Stewart maybe someone with a lathe could knock you one up if you get no joy.

D7 & D1 Racer

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Stewart,if it`s No35(90-6095)in the linked DF illustration...[Permission to view this media is denied]
you are fitting sealed bearings,I wouldn`t worry about the felt washer business(no grease flying around....and brake dust can`t invade the covered bearing),just knock up a study-enough spacer of the correct length.

Blue

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So.....

Spent a coupla weeks collecting electrical components and carefully assembling my own mini-loom as per the wiring diafram for direct lighting  model.  Even an electromagnetic numbskull like me can do that! And today Ive finished hooking it all up, cramming the headlamp bowl with wires and Hey Presto - NOTHING!! $@%%!&! $##

Im using the replica S0781switch. Perhaps i should be connecting things differently?? Hopefully a sunny day tomorrow and i can test it all from the ground up.

In other news: Obviously with a '59 plunger I've a hankering for an authentic bulb horn - who wouldn't? 

BUT! There's a bleedin'  great lump of Sheffield's finest where there should be a great big 'ole!

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Underneath however.....

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so, do i have a mutant or has the stock been changed at some point........

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Thanks guys. Sent draganfly email. Will see what  they've  got ☺

Nothing surer than I'll find the bleedin thing in a pocket the morning its due to arrive!

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its probably safe to say they have uploaded the wrong photo to go with the spacer part number
as you are unlikely to get a rear wheel spindle for £7 these days ;(

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hi  St   the  rubber   part  of  the  boulb   horn  it  the   ezy  bit    as  its   the  same   size rubber  on   the CERLY BUGLE  horn   from    a   bycycle  shop    it  has  to be  a  biger looking  ruber    not  the   stanard   on  the  strate  horns     if you  cannot  figer  out  the   wiering     feed  the  head &  tail lamps  dyrect   from  the  generator  bypassing  the  switch   conpltly   as  the  law  says   we  must  have   working   lights   dont  say  thay  have  to  have  a  control switch    all  D7  the headlamp   dont  work   unles  the  engine  is   running   good  luck   &  have  fun  

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Thanks Sunny. First thing tjis morning is to bypass the switch and take it a wire at a time. At least it's a gorgeous day for it.

I actually bought one of those cycle bugles as a temp solution and thought tbat the bulb was probably a petfect alternative. The bugle is nice and loud but it really is a 'ortible piece of tacky Taiwanese junk. Could perhaps be butchered to fit if straightened  out. ? My problem is i havent got a hole to put it in! (Oooo Matronnnn)

Anyway....wires await........☺

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Mike, I think the phrase going through Arthur's mind may be " Hello, playmates!"

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I can't for the life of me see the connection between this fine actress and a motorcycle lamp......

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Apparently her "assets" we're insured for £125,000! Insured against WHAT?? Arthur maybe???

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Yeah called them this morning and it's the wrong photo. Spacer in the post. Cheers Mike

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Huh,lovely day(that was yesterday here),today in East Lincs its freezing cold and blowing a gale,haha.

Stu,that gobbo is a nice job for a pillar drill,if you have one in your locale,then tap it out

Horn metalwork is thin on the ground,I only have one to share between my models....and I don`t have the little trumpet that fits to the bottom of the steering stem.The parts that screw into the top and also the bottom pieces, fetch silly money.Bit of lathe work to knock up top bits.

Mine could double as a duck decoy,but I have been collecting different reeds.Did spend a few weeks checking vintage bulb horn listings on ebay and ended up with a few cheapos to cut down and modify for the trumpet,but not done it yet.I think the bottom piece is a push fit,I don`t remember seeing threads,but don`t quote me.I`ve also gathered pipework,in fact copper water pipe may fit,so probably a matter of cutting trumpet off the ebay horn and soldering to pipe,which in turn will be expoxyed into the steering stem.

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